Съвременни конфликти ⇒ Израел-Палестина

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‘Hero’ pilot, plumber and dentist among those who saved flydubai flight to Israel
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/ ... ght-israel

Все още данните са оскъдни.

Помощник-пилотът (оманец) нападнал капитана (индиец) с нож и се опитал да разбие самолета в земята. Намушканкият многократнл капитан успял да отключи вратата на кабината, за влязат неколцина пътници, между които водопроводчик и зъболекар, и да надвият нападателя. После двама пилоти, пътуващи с пътниците, приземили самолета. Според едни били "европейци, единият британец", според други били южноафриканец и новозеландец (едното не изключва задължителни другото).

Идентичността на нападателят още не е оповестена, разпитвали го саудитските служби и щели да го предадат на службите на ОАЕ.
Точно, каквото бях казал в деня на атентата
Само националнастта на капитана не беше известна. Сега знаем, че е индиец.
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30 Сеп 2026, 15:02
Преди малко самолет на flyDubai за Израел кацна аварийно в Саудитска Арабия.
Помощник-пилотът оманец наръгал главния емиратски пилот и се опитал да разбие самолета малко преди да влезе в израелското въздушно пространство. Обаче пилотът се оказал окомуш, успял да го отблъсне и с помощта да пътници израелци го поотупали и овързали. На борда са пътували и пилотите, които е трябвало да върнат самолета, така че с тяхна помощ храбрият дубаец приземил самолета със 170 пътници на летище в Саудитска Арабия.
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-910155
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Мнение от Изчезнал Безследно » 03 Окт 2026, 19:13

По-важното е, че Янив Хайон, героят, спасил 180 пътници и екипажа на flyDubai е заклет Бибист и Тръмпист.
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По-важното е, че Янив Хайон, героят, спасил 180 пътници и екипажа на flyDubai е заклет Бибист и Тръмпист.
И това е важно, понеже...? :roll: :lol:

Самолетът е спасен от капитана, както сам призна, и неколцина пътници и резервни пилоти. Един от тях бил бибист и ти акцентираш точно върху това? :roll:

Няма да се учудя, ако се окаже че сам Биби е приземил самолета - такъв ви е стила, нали?
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27 Сеп 2026, 17:20
Избитите в Газа са вече 74 хил.
Нова данна - къде в сметките на антисемита са децата-войници?

"Палестински Ислямски Джихад" (PIJ) пусна некролог за 14-годишен свой член от бригада "Газа".
Palestinian Islamic Jihad just released a martyr notice for FOURTEEN YEAR OLD child soldier Khalil Al-Bahtiti. He is one of an estimated 2,000 child soldiers killed in Gaza. Absolute silence from the fake "NGOs" and "UN experts" who claim to care so much about Gazan children.
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Същото момче е зачислено към бройката невинни загинали деца на 26.10.2023 г. Счита се, че около 2000 деца-войници са били убити в сраженията.
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Френските ученици, палежи училищата си, защото искали по-добри училища. :?

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/2106017712484835801
https://x.com/ChurchillPath/status/2106337269980577919
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Мнение от Dinain » 04 Окт 2026, 03:09

Обзор на медийните събития около Газа през последната година. Резюме за полезните идиоти: Геноцидът се отлага отново. :D

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Almost a year since the fighting stopped in Gaza, and in the face of a growing pile of evidence that no such thing occurred, anti-Israel activists are desperately trying to keep the genocide accusation alive. This week, three more complications threatened its survival. The question is how much longer they can keep it up.

Between March 2 and May 19, 2025, Israel imposed a total blockade on Gaza, betting that they had sent enough food to prevent mass starvation. It did not account for bottlenecks and hoarding. Grain prices skyrocketed. Reports of malnutrition mounted. By July, aid agencies said more than 12,000 children had been identified as acutely malnourished, the highest monthly figure on record. That month, The New York Times ran “Gazans Are Dying of Starvation” on its front page. Its most effective argument was the photo on the front page: a child with a protruding spine, cradled in his mother’s arms. That the child had cerebral palsy, and that his brother, who was not skin and bones, had been quietly cropped out, the Times admitted just as quietly days later.

The tens of thousands said to be collapsing from hunger were supposedly buried in the ministry’s count of indirect deaths. This week, the Gaza Health Ministry released the full count. There were no mountains of skeletons. Obviously. Had there been, they would have made the Times’ front page instead of a cropped photograph.

In its Annual Mortality Report for 2025, the ministry lists 24,650 registered deaths. Of those, 17,286 are attributed to “war operations” and another 1,584 to accidents. That leaves 5,780 deaths from everything else: heart disease, cancer, old age. Roughly what Gaza buried in a normal prewar year.

The report lands two years after 99 physicians wrote to President Joe Biden alleging that 62,413 people had likely died of starvation and its complications between October 7, 2023, and September 30, 2024. A 2024 letter in The Lancet floated 186,000 total deaths. In 2025, the year of the famine, the ministry’s own data shows no meaningful excess of non-violent deaths.

The creative accounting doesn’t end there. Take the infant data. Malnutrition accounted for 4.1 percent of infant deaths in 2025. In 2021, it was 4.4 percent. And 2025 was the year famine was declared in Gaza City. The ministry’s report leads with the war dead and highlights an under-five mortality rate that more than doubled. Strip out the war deaths, though, and its own figure falls to 15.8 per 1,000. In 2022, it was 13.6. Over the same period, the ministry registered 50,227 births. By its own count, Gaza’s population grew by 1.2 percent in 2025, faster than the global average. If Israel is committing genocide, it is the most incompetent perpetrator in the history of mankind.

None of this means Gazans were feasting for two years. But the most repeated accusations were not “Gazans struggle with imbalanced diet” or “Food grows scarce under war conditions,” because neither carries the rhetorical power to justify any and all action against the accused while absolving the accusers of the burden of proof.

The genocide conspiracy had a second pillar. To hide its crime, Israel had to ban the international press and silence the truth-tellers on the ground. Yesterday, the IDF revealed that of the Gazans killed during the war and presented to the world as journalists or media workers, 170 were members of terrorist organizations. 118 belonged to Hamas’s military wing. 49 to Palestinian Islamic Jihad. The remaining three to smaller factions. 17 took part in the October 7 massacre. More than 40 of their deaths had drawn condemnation from the United Nations. I’m sure that now that their identities are known, the rest will receive similar condolences.

Some of the résumés are impressive. Amro Nahid Abdel Rahman Abu Odeh worked for Reuters and Turkey’s Anadolu Agency. He was also, per the IDF, a team commander in the photography unit of Hamas’s military wing. The military published two photos of him: one holding a camera, one holding a Kalashnikov. Hassan Majdi Ibrahim Abu Warda filed for the Barq Gaza news agency and moonlighted, according to the IDF, as a sniper in Islamic Jihad’s Northern Gaza Brigade. Others on the list had worked with CNN, the BBC, AP, AFP, ABC News, Le Monde and Australia’s ABC.

Perhaps the most important pillar of the genocide libel is its senselessness. Genocides are not waged out of reasonable security concerns, nor are they triggered by atrocities committed by the victims. They are acts of pure cruelty. That is why the genocide campaign has systematically sought to sever October 7 from the Gaza war, and from history itself.

Which makes yesterday awkward. For the first time this millennium, a full year passed without a single rocket fired into Israel from Gaza. Perhaps, then, it was a war of security after all, not of extermination.

Apply Occam’s razor. There was no mass starvation. There was no war on journalists. And when it was over, Israelis were safer than before. You can explain all of that with one simple word: war. Or you can call it genocide, and simply contort the dwindling pieces of evidence to fit that conclusion.

Using Occam’s razor assumes that logic has been the accusers’ goal. Had that been the case, we would never have gotten this far. The question is not when they will recant and beg Israel’s forgiveness, but when the evidence will become so overwhelming that the lie simply cannot be sustained. Speedily, and in our days.
https://x.com/AmitSegal/status/2106444015163908572
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Участие в дебатите няма да взема, но за снимките (тези и от по-предни постове, вкл. 14 годишния "martyr"), ще кажа едно - СГАН.
Когато не могат да ограничат свободата на мисълта – ограничават свободата на тялото

Декомунизация. ДеКГБизация. Дерусификация.

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03 Окт 2026, 20:24
Thorn написа: ↑
27 Сеп 2026, 17:20
Избитите в Газа са вече 74 хил.
Нова данна - къде в сметките на антисемита са децата-войници?

"Палестински Ислямски Джихад" (PIJ) пусна некролог за 14-годишен свой член от бригада "Газа".
Palestinian Islamic Jihad just released a martyr notice for FOURTEEN YEAR OLD child soldier Khalil Al-Bahtiti. He is one of an estimated 2,000 child soldiers killed in Gaza. Absolute silence from the fake "NGOs" and "UN experts" who claim to care so much about Gazan children.
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https://x.com/Aizenberg55/status/2106383929049800884

Същото момче е зачислено към бройката невинни загинали деца на 26.10.2023 г. Счита се, че около 2000 деца-войници са били убити в сраженията.
Още една данна - фейкът, тласкан от антисемита без източник, включва в "избитите" всички починали от естествена смърт в Газа междувременно.
❗️ ℹ️ New Death Toll Figures from Gaza: Previous Numbers at Least 30% Too High!

It’s actually a small sensation. Nevertheless, I couldn’t find any media outlet that has picked up this report.

▶️ The Health Ministry in the Gaza Strip, i.e., Hamas, has for the first time published more detailed death toll figures: It has separated those killed in the war from other causes of death.

▶️ This confirms what many have repeatedly explained since the start of the Gaza war. The reported death toll of currently 74,228 (as of 03.10.2026; via the Palestinian News Agency WAFA) simply cannot be correct.

Until now, Hamas has avoided breaking down these figures by cause of death. So one had to take this presumed total number and subtract the average pre-war mortality rate to get somewhat reliable estimates.
But no one bothered to do that—neither the media nor NGOs.

One can only speculate why Hamas has done this now. One possibility would be pressure from the UN, which in turn faced pressure from NGOs or member states.

▶️ The current figures refer to the year 2025; it’s an annual report. (Annual Report – Mortality in Gaza Strip, 2026)

▶️ The total number of deceased and killed for the year 2025 is given as 24,650.

▶️ When broken down by gender, another key figure immediately stands out:
73.4% of the deceased or killed were male, only 26.6% female.
Since the ratio in the population is roughly 50/50, there’s a significant skew here.

▶️ Another indicator is downright shocking: 52.2% of those killed or deceased were between 15 and 44.
Although this group makes up only 45.9% of the total population (Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics) and isn’t prone to dropping dead spontaneously. Small children and the elderly die far more frequently in any society.

🔴 According to Hamas, 70.1% of the reasons for death are due to “war-related causes.” That would be 17,280.

▶️ Another 6.4% (1,577) are listed as “accidents.” That’s an enormously high number. (EU 2022: 3.4%)
Hamas has hinted that these include, among other things, traffic accidents, but hasn’t defined them more precisely. It’s also conceivable that combatants and civilians who fell victim to their own ricochet fire, rockets, or booby traps were counted here.

The key figures are consistent. Both the overall pre-war mortality rate, and the war-related killings in 2024, and the difference now given for 2026.
The projected figures, which had subtracted the average “natural” deaths, came quite close to the same result:

🔴 If you apply these numbers to the three years of war, you get 52,033. Not 74,228.

▶️ The number of killed combatants, which one can still only estimate, remains the same, however.
Israel estimates having killed about 20,000 combatants. By mid-2025, the military intelligence service Aman had already clearly identified at least 8,900 and assigned them to an organization. (Hamas, PIJ, PFLP, etc.)

🔴 Overall, the numbers are thus about 30% too high.

🔴 This significantly shifts the ratio of killed civilians to combatants.
https://x.com/ungemeve/status/2106698857790730323
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Жалък си и си морално пропаднал тип, оправдаващ военните престъпления на полудял близкоизточен диктатор.Thorn, 26.08.25 🤭

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